Yeah I am liking it too but I agree her scenes felt too drawn out. But individual moments that lean into nostalgia seem to be the most loved moments. Unabashed and with a twinkle of roguish charm, Jack defends his actions as a doctor willing to break any rule to save lives. Did I mention the cackling? The empire was lead at the time of the sack by emperor Honorius, son of Emperor Theodosius who died in 395. Shadow Captain Shrike has a great back story and aesthetics, and I think a really great model. But then on hearing Picard has a son, Shaw realizes that robo-Picard isnt the Borg (or isnt compromised at the moment), that he is acting human and thus can be trusted in the situation. The reveal and emotions of some scenes rested on facial expressions, like when Bev and Picard looked at each other at the end but I honestly could not see what kind of face Beverly was making so it was lost on me. Get updates about our conservation work and how to help birds. But then, for those Im also not reading internet stuff about them from fans and getting spoilers for, either. Shaw made it very clear that hes a by the book captain and from his POV, hes now in the middle of a legal dispute by someone who admitted to breaking laws. Her first step is to meet up with her estranged ex-husband Jay, who it turns out lives on this planet and runs a seedy bar. I thought he came across pretty well! It will only get better if laughably bad Amanda Plummer exits soon! Again this obsession with him and that movie wasnt so blatant until the modern era of Star Trek. The Senate sent Priscus Attalus to the Emperor to urge him to satisfy Alaric's demands, but Honorius again refused. Were just discussing some of the issues so far like every show just like issues people had with TOS and TNG btw. Worf is still very much Worf thankfully. The news articles, Tweets, and blog posts do not represent IMDb's opinions nor can we guarantee that the reporting therein is completely factual. Gill, N.S. He appears to have had quite a long career as a rogue out there in space to only be 20 years old. He said in an interview today that his character is 23 so hes definitely born post-Nemesis. The odds of the show running off the rails remains high. I just wish they would turn on the lights. If you paid attention in the very opening scene of the first episode, Jack learned to speak from listening to Jean Lucs logs. Beverlys ships full name was the SS Eleos XII and it had the designation NAR 59019. Film and series fans know her from Pulp Fiction, King of the Fishers, The Tributes to Panem: Catching Fire and the Netflix series Ratched, among others. He and Stashwick both, fantastic actors. I think fans of TOS/TNG just want Trek to be flat and evenly lit like an old, retro TV show.. Its worth it, though, and lots of fun. Maybe I just dont care that much. In which case, I guess, we will see that thrashed out between them when she explains the conspiracy. Star Trek Picard season 3 - is Vadic a Changeling? Yeah, I was wondering after the second episode how such an incompetent officer would be allowed to command a starship of any type. You should be use to it by now. Youre talking about the Titan arent you? But as also said, we havent seen enough of it yet so it may end up being really good. Really, you never thought you could do better than anyone in TNG season 1? But I said in my OP Im not going to judge it until we learn more. The fact that you responded tells me a lot. Hopefully well all be won over. Just wait to see how it unfolds. Because im not making a direct, 1 to 1 comparison, im using them to illustrate that these are simply the kinds of stories that Trek has always told. Picard asks, What just happened. LaForge, They threw a ship at us. Really, writers? The rest, apart from some convenient plot inconsistencies, seems OK to me thus far. They also did it in Deja Q to move the descending asteroidal moon. The family friendly crowd ruin everything with their absurd, fragile and arbitrary rules that they insist on righteously imposing on everyone else. Frankly, I think hes a phenomenal actor, and is very much in line with the way Picard described himself as a young man in Tapestry. And hes a much better actor than Hardy was in Nemesis (no knock on Hardy, hes a heavyweight these days but im sure even he would admit it wasnt his best performance). Just because we call it a heavy crusier or exploration crusier doenst keep the Romulans or Klingons from believing it to be a battlecrusier, just as the Feds called the D-7 a battlecrusier (and may a Connie take on a D-7 on screen in a fair fight one day in SNW!). Yes. Practical concerns -- like food -- kept Alaric from immediately implementing his plan. I think you may be right. Gill, N.S. And still think it would have been fun having the TNG crew try to save Picard from the Borg, but this is pretty good too (which is saying a lot as I am no TNG fan). When he comes to her aid, he first meets her adult son who instantly gets into a fistfight with the good guys before they realize who he is and what he represents. Other people who watched the entire season months ago has confirmed it. And now you know why I laughed before the season started when everyone was upset by the im a pacifist line. The point was made that it was WAY too early for them to be trying to do something so drastically different and dark, and that having the threat be against the Federation as a whole would have been better served happening after years of stories that better established the organization in TNG. They have been dimming the lights since the first tng movie. Amanda Plummer (center) as Vadic. Wow, I never realized that, but youre right! Its brilliant. ;D. So hes doing what the nu trek haters want then. are actually really really good. Good for you, I dont care and neither does anyone else. Unfortunately, that is all for a rather weak special character with limited combat capabilities. Sack of Rome by Visigoths led by King Alaric in 410 - YouTube And yes.. For the love of God please turn up the lights! And perhaps with some Romulan Ale (or my equivalent). Loved this episode. I am doing a DS9 watch on the Dominion War and I have noticed that at the time of the original broadcast, the writers and producers give the audience a strong feeling of knowing what the stakes were at the end of an episode. It also feels like a story that would have fit much better in DS9s first or second season: a darker show, and after 6 seasons of showing of establishing the world more concretely. The correct order to watch every Marvel movie. Watch Casablanca or the old Mutiny on the Bounty. We will burn the earth on which he stands, and the night will be lit by the ashes of the Federation. Alaric was going to Rome, so, although he traversed Cremona, Bononia, Ariminum, and the Flaminian Way, he didn't stop to destroy them. They would reduce everything to an episode of Barney or Mr. Rodgers. Youre spot on, just out of curiosity is it the nostalgia that youre enjoying? I think, if I remember correctly, we were at the end of the season, I might have gotten really mad in the writers' room, being like, 'Guys,' but, it is undeniably satisfying to watch it happen.". Everyone else was spot on. I do not entirely disagree with that. Yikes! Of course, she is going to ignore that order. Picard season 3 reveals Amanda Plummer's villain, La Forge's daughters Alaric, a King of the Goths and leader of other barbarians, tried means other than sacking Rome to get his way withHonorius, theRoman Emperor of the Westfrom c. 395-August 15, 423. None of the CGI on this show is that great, but there is a lot of it, along with a large cast and a lead actor who made a reported $750K per episode so theyre gonna have to cut corners somewhere. Star Trek Picard season 3's latest episode brought plenty of big moments and reveals, and might have suggested that Vadic is a Changeling. Its a characteristic that seems to be beyond her skills. Picard is barging on to the scene unwanted, acting out of personal feelings and contrary to duty. Rendering time is outrageously expensive. Baki Hanma Season 2 Episode 13 Review: Unwritten Rule of the Fight, Farzar season 2: Release Date, Plot, Cast, and Trailer All You Need to Know!, Luna Nera Season 2: Release Date, Plot, Cast, and Trailer All You Need to Know!, Special Season 3: Release Date, Plot, Cast, and Trailer All You Need to Know!. Im still not convinced Jack is Picards son.I reckon there is a twist coming on that front. Audubon protects birds and the places they need, today and tomorrow. Photo: Dick Dickinson/Audubon Photography Awards. Vadic | Memory Alpha | Fandom Isnt that the right call? Very entertaining fan service. Far from being the enemy of Rome, Alaric worked as king-maker, installing Priscus Attalus as emperor, and keeping him there despite policy disagreements. Over on the Titan, Seven pushes for a rescue, but Captain Shaw doesnt see any of this as his business. Even those watching on flat screens are having widely ranging experiences. Inthis weekslatest episode of the Star Trek series, Star Trek Picard season 3 episode 4, audiences got a closer look at her and her links to the Changelings. She was also clearly willing to send her own crew to their deaths to apprehend Jack Crusher.. After a fantastic debut, they made Shaw un-sympathetic in this episode. It easily could have been some arm of Federation Intelligence that was uber secret. Its not like he dragged in another show that isnt even being discussed here. Wow, I thought I was all alone on how ridiculous this show is becoming. Would have made sense to be smart and take the Shrike, cos its a super powerful ship compared to the Titan. There is just something that strikes me as wrong about an agency like Section 31 in the UFP. Am I the only one picking up the Wrath of Khan vibe here? Stilicho urged Honorius to agree, so Alaric was paid and continued in service to the Western Emperor. And add to that, doesnt Picard shoots one of them ON THE CONTAINER BEVERLY is in??? Ill try to remember to hit that one first next week. But he needs Riker for that as Proof. But he needs Riker for that as Proof. Maybe? But I think for people who sees it from Shaws side is a guy who has been brought into the middle of a crisis that he already denied their request to go to and was even lied to about the nature of their request. They had to leave in a hurry because there was not enough food and because they needed to cross the sea before winter. So Riker literally brings Starfleet in during the first episode and Picard lets him. Yeah that was fun! Vadic, captain of the starship Shrike, is a completely new character that hasnt appeared on Star Trek before. Baki Hanma Season 2 Episode 14: Release Date, Time & Where to Watch? Everything Revealed About Vadic, Picard Season 3's Villain - Screen Rant I would have no problem watching this with a ten year old. or DCS? Nicely contrasted. On the subject of tropes, how is Starfleet help days away when it took them a matter of hours to get from Earth to Ryton in episode one, even if Titan is an exceptionally fast ship? All for no reason. Amanda Plummer seems to be a good actress (this is the first time i have seen her in something) and its cool that she is Christopher Plummers (General Chang from ST6) daughter too. Not sure what interface youre using. Sounds very similar to me. Much of the best Star Trek omits anyone acting in a bad guy-ish way. Personally, I prefer the TOS and TNGepisodesto the movies, and while many fans seem to worship TWOK, Imuch prefer The Devil in the Dark, Journey to Babel, The Measure of a Man, and Darmok.. I genuinely wonder if it would be universally loved if it just had cinematagraphy from 1990. are very logical and defensible. mrjoshq9 5 mo. Alaric then won cities in Venetia and was about to march on Milan where Honorius was stationed. By: Anthony Pascale You may be looking for Shrike-class fighter. In 401, Radagaisus, another barbarian king (d. August 406) who was possibly in conspiracy with Alaric, led his Vandals across the Alps into Noricum. But I cant blame how people are reacting to it so far either. The nine-inch carnivores catch and kill a wide variety ofpreygrasshoppers, crickets, beetles, lizards, mice, frogs, and small birdsthatcan often be asbigas they are; one was once observedcarrying off a Northern Cardinalafter "a noisy struggle lasting less than a minute, by which time the cardinal was dead.". I dont like DSC either, and dont love a lot of what theyve done. Gothic troops destroyed most of Rome and took prisoners, including the Emperor's sister, Galla Placidia. Also, I truly wish theyd kept a different Picard character and not kept Rafi, whose over-angry over-acting gets in the way of every scene shes in. Two clandestine intelligence agencies that operate out of the US? And the planet wasnt any better. So what better way to wrap up Picards character than to actually have him being a father? I really curious if they explain its Color. It feels more menacing.. Or bad guy-ish coming from her. The look with Beverly and Jean-Luc wow. I mean the guy was a Borg, then communicated with the Borg in FC, was obsessed with AI and then becomes a robo-Picard (and acts like it is no big deal). I think theyre casting based on talent, not look. A bounty hunter with a starship that's armed to the teeth, Amanda Plummer's . I am loving Vadic! Lets all sit back and just appreciate what a wonderful time it is as a Trek fan that we can speculate on storylines. Fair enough. In fact, it didnt really start until Nemesis came around and then every Kelvin movie. According to Jack, it was a Mariposa medical vessel, possibly a connection to the medical movement founded by Dr. Teresa Ramirez and Cristobal Rios described by Guinan in season 2. Ive seen pictures from Dave Blass on Twitter of the Rafi planet stuff. Cons: Disengage had a lot of ground to cover with the revelation of the main villain Vadic (and her ship), Worfs introduction as Raffis handler, and the anchor issue, Beverlys son is also Jean-Lucs son. Not sold on it yet, however. TrekMovie does not allow personal attacks on other fans. Remember the Klingon who hid a weapon in his *shoe* in Heart of Glory? So youre ok for the nasty retorts, but when someone gives it back, you get your panties in a twist. With time running out, they ring up Vadic and give her their answer with a classic Picard engage as the Titan fires a volley of torps and heads into the nebula. I could be way off-base, and no biggie if I am, but just thought Id posit that theory, take it or leave it. Heres what you need to know about her! It was odd that the Guardian now suddenly not only planet hops but has a guardian (the guardian of the guardian, LOL). Unfortunately, because of how things shook out, it had to be a secret son he never knew, if it was ever going to be someone he could actually interact with (as opposed to say, having a child with Laris). Fun ep regardless! I also intensely disliked Lost every scene that I saw felt shallow, cool and incomplete. 30,000 men fled to join Alaric, who was still in Noricum. Yes, I enjoy this description. They definitely wanted Ed to be Picard Jr. Picard streams exclusively on Paramount+ in the Americas, Europe, the Caribbean and South Korea. But thats a standard trope that Ive just gotten a little numb at. She was demonstrating how powerful her ship was. I am confused. News reports say Starfleet has determined the guy behind the attack is some Romulan dissident named Lurak TLuco. Flinging an entire medical starship, perhaps half a kilometer long, at second starship could very easily have killed someone (indeed, we dont know that it *didnt*). Speleers definitely has the intensity needed to portray Kirk, and Im still not convinced hes the right fit for this role. I really dont. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. See my point. Beverly basically told him that Jack was his kid non-verbally. I thought Sneeds bottled beverage was a Sluggo Cola! In other words, you know what Im thinking better than I do. Disagree. Patrick Stewart absolutely nailed his performance in this episode, I recognized Picard again. Enterprise used the A-S-S word! They may be aware of the happenings in some episodes but they havent shown that they really understand it. A retired admiral, or even an active duty one without authenticated orders, would have no business countermanding a captains orders. It was obvious that Jack was Picards son especially when Picard said in the first episode that he didnt need a legacy but looks like he is getting one now with Jack. So this building travel trough this thin layer of their Sub-space Universe and directly returned back, just on different Space. With one word, we see how they have almost no respect for him. Spock was half human so his death at circa 150 something wouldnt apply to the full Vulcan, or half Romulan half Vulcan, Saavik). Fair enough. Next year, "Star Trek: Picard" returns to U.S. streaming service Paramount+ with Season 3, and in addition to the familiar faces of the "The Next Century" crew, it also has a new main character in store: villain Vadic, captain of the Shrike, portrayed by Amanda Plummer. Following this refusal, Alaric marched to Rome and blockaded it for a second time at the end of 409. Alaric, King of the Visigoths and the Sack of Rome - ThoughtCo I took it as a comment that his renown is tied to everything he did as a captain rather than an admiral. Yes her methods are extreme lol but she isnt trying to even hurt or kill anyone, she asked them to hand the guy over and would leave them alone once they did. Before Alaric could re-outfit his naval forces, Alaric I, King of the Goths, died at Cosentia. Vadic is delighted the game is afoot, cackling as the Shrike follows. I cant think of a single show today that didnt get criticism of some kind, can you? (I still hope Riker makes admiral one day!) However if I have used any of your artwork or map, then please don't hesitate to contact me, and Ill be more than happy to give the appropriate credit. We didnt find out why they were doing any of it until waaaay later in the story. It sounds like once the big reveal is known, it all really comes together in the end. And in this case, were not even discussing the villain angle; we were talking about the baby mama out of nowhere scenario that happened between Picard and Crusher like it happened with Kirk and Marcus in that movie. Great seeing Picard in Admiral mode and Shaw showing some sense finally and Vadic is a nutjob and again i find her a bit over the top and i do find her a little Khan in her but she is more closer to the likes of Nero and Shinzon imo. Its really just the soap operaish way thats really the issue in this case. The kid cops to running afoul of the galaxys gangsters and assorted angry fathers, but he has no clue what the heavily armed Vadic wants. Reminds me of a fantastic line from MST3K when they screened Teenagers from Outer Space. Stories about disobeying orders, used sparingly, can work; but when they sprout like mushrooms over five years of NuTrek, they make Starfleet as an organization look incompetent. The episode started with purported Fenris Rangers who were working with Vadic (and call her the marked woman) and supposedly they were followed up by confrontations with some Klingons and some Starfleet officers, all tying into Crushers warning not to trust anyone, including Starfleet. . A Space Marine Captain's stats with a pair of master-crafted Lightning Claws is no slouch in combat. But when its done well, then its usually a win. Shes a delight to watch. It would have been much better she had a real dialogue partner, one who could quickly move to probing into WHY she has decided to be responsible for the terrible things other people decide to do. She makes Michelle Yeohs hissing seem positively subtle. Lets remember in 2016, when Trek was not yet on TV again, and now we are blessed with so much to consider! I kind of like that. For some reason the facial hair took me out of the scene, No review of the plot elements should gloss over the fact that todays streaming version of the episode was visually poor. If not, my point was that nitpicking while fine when valid is not necessary for that issue. A rape scene in Disco season 1? Ultimately, Rome's refusals to accommodate a barbarian led Alaric to sack Rome on August 24, A.D. 410. When Adm. Jamison did this to Picard in Too Short a Season, Picard quite rightly saw through it, and Shaw quite rightly shut it down here. Guys, Im not claiming this is the first time this tech has been used, its just something I enjoyed about the episode. He was born and raised on the Templars' world God's Grove. Interesting. And were only 20% of the way though season three. Glad we can scrap that now. Your commentary is the true gift of this season! Relax. So, language can be bad; at the least offensive. Good like LICENCE TO KILL and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and DEEP COVER and THE TERMINATOR and THE HOUR and THE WIRE and CARNIVALE and BITE THE BULLET and ALL THAT JAZZ? He senses theyre up to something. The Titan shuttle that Picard stole was the Saavik, named after Saavik from, According to Seven, the shuttle was unarmed., Something loaded in primary position in the bay. It is almost painful having to wait a week for the next episode. Technology unknown., Every creepy thing Vadic said about Earth birds. In 403, Alaric crossed the border again, to attack Verona, but this time, Stilicho clearly defeated him. Vadic shattered into thousands of pieces. Unfortunately I felt they were going for a look, but it was so overdone that it felt fake. It was so dark and murky in there that I honestly couldnt really tell what the heck was going on for a bit. At some point, it stops being unoriginal and becomes this is just the kind of story Trek always does.. 'Star Trek: Picard' Teaser Shows Amanda Plummer as Final - IMDb Or, did Shaw sleep for days? A guy who was part of that Axanar scam, who once produced some behind-the-scenes Trek featuretes for Paramount. Its just the constant callbacks in general that was being brought up. So another one is really NOT necessary. And how does any of it equal revenge? Its weird to me people are arguing which show is doing fan service when to me with the exception of Discovery being in the 32nd century, they all been pushing fan service and nostalgia. Picard Season 3 can still win me over, in spite of how dumb the plotting has been thusfar, but were already 20% in, and Im growing ever-less hopeful. Ironically best TNG in years. I dont think he means likable in that sense. TOS and TNG mostly respected the chain of, After all this time, she has no other friends? (I say this as someone who actually liked the alien, gerbil-like kinesthetics of the Ferengi in The Last Outpost, a decidedly minority opinion.) To be clear: voicing your opinion of a thing is fine, when its at the appropriate place and time. My only complaint was they showed his attack on the guards partially through Raffis drug-addled view, so it was blurry. Agreed. A lot of the first two seasons did stink, but have made some great Trek. Fans of "Picard" can likely rest assured that she won't be back for the show's remaining two episodes. But you are name calling. I mean, that kind of story almost writes itself. lol you think I take this personally. To anyone complaining about Amanda, you dont deserve her. Who is Vadic in Star Trek Picard season 3? | The Digital Fix The Shrike is exactly like the Scimitar over equipped with weapons lol and sending the Eleos crashing into the Titan is something that Nero/Shinzon and even Khan would think of too. Where are you coming off? So the only conclusion I have at this point is that Picard didnt believe Crusher was threatened in a way where Starfleet couldnt help. The worlds defining voice in entertainment and pop culture: breaking whats new and whats next. All the others I wait till the end to watch episodes every day or two. Shrikes, though, are stuck with dinky passerine feetgood for little except delicately perching on branches. Joy. If thats harsh, im sorry and I dont know what to tell you. The attitude of the computer voice was also cringey. (Indeed, as a college senior, I went to buy something at an electronics store, and the sales clerk treated me in a ridicuously familiar and jovial way, even play-punching my arm. But its the most likely one. Alaric headed towards the Roman province of Africa where he intended to provision his army with Rome's personal breadbasket, but a storm wrecked his ships, temporarily blocking his crossing. He took the hut belonging to mercenaries' part of the camp, without asking them for permission. Lastly, Im also finding the Raffi subplot surprisingly engaging by the standards of B-plots; where Picard was willing to jeopardize 500 lives on the Titan for the sake of family, Raffi chose duty over her son. PICARD at least as a captain in Shaw who seems willing to push back on it. Might want to check your screen settings, I didnt have any issues on my tv. All of the scenes on the Titans bridge were almost all black; the secondary characters appeared as nothing more than silhouettes against their consoles, and the command officers were all dressed in black. Pros: No. I agree! I am joking. Its just too hard to see Secret Hideout getting so many things right. I loved DS9 but there were things they did that werent great. That said, the trope of the villain knowing everything about the heroes a la Khan and Kruge was the exact kind of undisciplined fan-service that makes me lose patience with Matalas. Ill start with whats worked well: the Picard-Riker dynamic, for one. Perhaps hes channeling the mother of another Jack, Jr. (IMO, not even the best of Kurtzman-era Trek.) Sounds like I hate it. Now I imagine he would contact Starfleet first and at least get their advice or direction first; which Im surprised Shaw havent done himself at least, unless Im missing something somewhere or they cant for a particular reason. And will those time ripples eliminate PICARD s3, or is that shielded from change by virtue of the showrunner himself? Thats why their network is so extensive. But during the credits there is a countdown to start another show before the credits are complete. Insubordination for 7 and a Star Fleet Captain that is so incompetent that he allows his number 2 to basically mutiny without consequence. Of course, he is her mysterious handler and today is a good day for the bad guys to die, including Sneed who gets his big noggin chopped off by the Klingons cool new sword before he helps Raffi exit with a I told you not to engage. And that is how you do an entrance worthy of a warrior. Maybe its your tv. Directed by Doug Aarniokoski. If the Ferengi has had dealings with S31 before, he may know that they exist. Theres a reason that episode was TV-MA and this one TV-14. I actually didnt get the sense Shaw went along with Picard because he was an admiral, but because of the fact that Crusher was his son. Network N Media earns commission from qualifying purchases via Amazon Associates and other programs. I think theyre retconning that it was never a secret. Play fast and loose with galactic geography. I agree with the objection, but in fairness, its far from the first time weve seen the crew suddenly grow incompetent when prisoner gets thrown in the brig. Ill see where the son plot goes but I really really wish they didnt go there. And hes not exactly in a position to call in an arbitrator or anything. The sets are WAY too dark, the plot has been hackneyed so far, and if I want to watch TWOK, Ill go watch TWOK; I dont need a remake of it. And being a better shot than the thugs shooting back. I know there is a lot more to her than just wanting Crusher so now Im excited to see where it goes. Broaden it to sci-fi as a whole, or all entertainment, and there will never be anything truly new.
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